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:'(Thank you Ebona.
Jeffan if you can't give blood just let your hair grow and donate it....it is such a lovely shade!
I can't give blood and don't have enough hair to donate
:'(Thank you Ebona.
Jeffan if you can't give blood just let your hair grow and donate it....it is such a lovely shade!
Might depend on if the thing you are building is a church or something elseBut even this is open to interpretation. If I go on a mission trip with my church to somewhere to help build...something, I wouldn't see that as trying to "convert" people to my religion. I see it as doing something nice for a community. Others may say that the church has an ulterior motive of conversion. Who's right?
I think Pip actually has somewhat of a legitimate point. If I was to donate part of my body, I wouldn't be doing it because of some internet recognition. I don't volunteer because Tar Valon will give me a gold merit for volunteering. I can understand if TV accepted donations for such and such charity, but this whole idea of recognizing people for something that they should be doing out of the goodness of their hearts doesn't sit well with me. When I see posts asking if donating old-used socks to hobos counts towards a merit, seriously, my heart breaks a little. This site used to be so much grander than what it has become.
You'd still need to define "give back to the community" Is teaching Sunday school giving back? Is getting involved in a politician's election campaign? Is getting involved in a specific issue, such as an SSM campaign? How do you differentiate between giving as an individual and as part of an organisation? What if the organisation is a genuine hate group?Community and service are things you do to give back to the community, without monetary compensation to you.
I honestly think the wording is what is making this a problem. By discussing service through a religious organization as "additional details" of the original statement, it does read that religious organizations "attempt to limit a human being’s freedom and rights." That was probably not the intent, but by talking about hate groups and religious organizations in the same section, there's legitimate grounds for concern.
As the years have rolled on we’ve grown. I don’t get to know everyone, nobody does. With this growth, we’ve had to evolve and I think that rather than cheapening anything the SOA Program reflects the site and community transforming. We are aiming to recognize members as a means of encouraging more service, not solely as a means to offer bragging rights or Achievements. These are acts of service that are based out of people acting from the goodness of their hearts, yes. You can report them, you can chose not to participate and not report them. There are no rewards to members, elevated membership status included, for participating, it is not required. Its just something we want to do, and can do, to thank our members and highlight their actions. Plus, be recognizing these actions, maybe we can get to know one another more and tighten our community through further shared interests. Its all part of growing as an organization and I for one am excited to see where things are going.
Alaria Celentari said:1) Does this count? (obviously, I think it should, but I'm concerned from what has been said above that it might not - one of the problems with supporting pipe-organs and their music is that it is next to impossible not to hold such events in churches)
2) What category would it fit in?
3) How would you evaluate the time commitment in terms of the point system presented above?
I agree with Ariana, but for me it's more.
I think what bothers me is that the program devalues what I do. If I'm giving a group my time or money - it's because I see inherent value in what they do, and what I can help them accomplish. I don't want to devalue my work with one group because they may have tenants that others don't agree with. And I don't want to be a part of a program that would value-equate teaching Sunday School with KKK(or insert federally recognized hate group) orientation. And by instituting a program with biases such as this, you force an agenda - and while that's honorable on some level - it's playing politics, and I don't feel that the site was meant to do that.
I agree with Ariana, but for me it's more.
I think what bothers me is that the program devalues what I do. If I'm giving a group my time or money - it's because I see inherent value in what they do, and what I can help them accomplish. I don't want to devalue my work with one group because they may have tenants that others don't agree with. And I don't want to be a part of a program that would value-equate teaching Sunday School with KKK(or insert federally recognized hate group) orientation. And by instituting a program with biases such as this, you force an agenda - and while that's honorable on some level - it's playing politics, and I don't feel that the site was meant to do that.