Who was disguised as Sammael?

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In the beginning of book 11, we're told that someone disguised as Sammael has ordered a lot of trollocks into the ways.

Some googling showed me that Sandersson said to MAFO (ask Maria and find out). Maria didn't remember, she told the fans to check the Encyclopedia.

I don't have the Encyclopedia anymore, so.. Could someone please check it out for me? Who ordered the trollocks into the ways, and probably later staged the trollock attack on the manor where Rand was staying?
 

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I have the encyclopedia, but I don't have a clue what I'd look up to get the answer for you. Any suggestions?
 

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I have the encyclopedia, but don't know how I would search for that
 

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I looked up:
trollocs
Sammael
the Ways
and Rand al'Thor

I didn't find anything related to this question. However, I did find the following quote:

"After learning that Herid Fel had been torn limb from limb, Rand made love to Min for the first time."

And I must be a terrible person because I can't stop laughing. :look:
 

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I thought for sure that Graendal was responsible for the attack on the manor, which would lead me to Demandred as the most likely candidate to be posing as Sammael, but that is me working from memory.
 

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Padan Fain - nope
Taim - nope
Graendal - no direct mention, just "she aimed Sammael at Rand"
Lord Algarin - nope
 

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However, I did find the following quote:

"After learning that Herid Fel had been torn limb from limb, Rand made love to Min for the first time."

And I must be a terrible person because I can't stop laughing. :look:

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Which chapter(s) is it? I could skim and see if there are any other terms to look up.


ETA: Glad I'm not the only one with a dark sense of humor. :laugh:
 

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Could it have been Moghedien? That kind of play fits her play book, but her entry in the encyclopedia doesn't really mention much.

A lot of people think it's Fain because he could control Trollocs and Myrddral, I've never found evidence to support that theory otherwise.
 

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Could it have been Moghedien? That kind of play fits her play book, but her entry in the encyclopedia doesn't really mention much.

Moghedien was out of the picture at that point, wasn't she?
 

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It's been a while since I read, but was she still in the mind trap at that point?
 

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What if it was Shaidar Haran?

Edit: Don't mind me, just spoiling things for myself.
 

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Nothing relevant to this discussion in Moghedien's article, but I'm just going to go through all the Forsaken now and see what they say, because why not.
 

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I believe I read somewhere that it was Graendal, though I don't remember where I read that :look: It makes the most sense to me though, since she is the one that worked most closely with Sammael, and would know where he had Shadowspawn loyal to him...
 

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What if Maria was wrong and it's not actually in the companion and we're on a wild goose chase of forgotten information? :look:
 

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I’ve looked everywhere online and in the Library and can’t seem to find it. This might be one of those open-ended things. Luckily, there’s only so many people it could be. It could’ve even been Moridin himself just to make a point.
 

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Nothing relevant to this discussion in Moghedien's article, but I'm just going to go through all the Forsaken now and see what they say, because why not.
You are awesome. Thank you.

It's menioned by Moridin in the prequel of book 11, in Aran'Gar's POV that Sammael or someone disguised as him gave orders to myrdraal and was obeyed as though it was a Chosen giving the order. And we KNOW sammael was dead at that point, Jordan confirmed it.
 

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Wish someone could track down Maria or Sandersson and ask them directly...
 
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