S1E4: "The Dragon Reborn" - w/Book Spoilers

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A very small thing but,
presuming it wasn't just a dig at Siuan
I really liked the mention of Moiraine having a dog! The whole "cats like women, dogs like men" thing from the books reeeeeeeally grated on me because it was so unnecessary :tug
 
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Sarah Nakamura confirmed Logain can't see Nynaeve's weaving, just was reacting to the shockwave she sent out, as well as the fact she had to have split a Healing weave six different ways.
 
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I really enjoyed this episode. I was devastated when the Warder felt his Aes Sedai die. From Nynaeve's explosion of Healing to the Tuatha'an, everything was perfect. I really liked to see Alanna's and Moiraine's friendship, it makes me appreciate Alanna more in the books and I hope that they "fix" what Alanna did to Rand.
 
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Logain hears the voices of previous Dragons? Oh does he now

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so we know Lews Therin was never actually a seperate being in Rands head.

just the madness breaking down barriers between memories between lives and manifesting through his insanity as a seperate personality.

I think we had hints of Mazrim Taim with it too off the top of my head. Might look that one up and see what I’m remembering.

sounds like they are making that a common factor with the men, with the guy Liandrin killed talking to an imaginary friend. Logain hallucinating etc.

so likely Logain hearing his own previous lives perhaps?
 

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The colors of his morning
The darkness of his night
Little graves that gave no warning
A sun that brought no light

He saw his whole world breaking
That tortured soul I met
In a prison of his making
The man who can't forget

I can still hear the way that he cried
For the ones he was missing
I can still hear the way that he cried
For the ones he had lost


He saw them in the rivers
He felt them in the rain
In dreams he heard them whisper
The truth that is his pain


He caused the whole world's breaking
That tortured soul I met
In a prison of his making
The man who can't forget
* * * *

The voices that Logain hears Do Not cry for the ones he lost, nor do they whisper in his dreams of the truth of his pain

I felt it was not only a reference to LTT, but also foreshadowing what Rand goes through later when he makes that mental list of all the people that have died because of him
 

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I agree Axis.

There are a ton of mentions of Asha'man seeing things that aren't there, it would make sense that they would also hear things that weren't there. I think one of the ones that Nyneave ended up healing says he was seeing 'shadows'. I really liked how they showed Logain's spirits? as shadows as well!
 

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Random (and very minor) complaint about Alanna's outfit. I was trying to recall where she was from based on how she was dressed (because I hope their styles remain from the books). And her jacket/blouse had three chains going across it, which is very Kandori. But then she turned around and had those bells in her hair and I was like, oh yeah, she just be Arafellin. But I am grumbly about it because I love the distinctive dress for the countries, and it's an easy identifier they could keep.

That being said, I'm happy that we've avoided dresses with slashes of color across the skirts so far :laugh:
 
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I definitely think Thom's song is about Lews Therin Telamon.

"He caused the whole world's breaking."
 
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I have yet to see high lighting of a well turned calf :laugh: Series simply not worth continuing.

I'm going to discount Perrin flaunting his wound.

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(In case anyone missed it.. I love it all so far)
 
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Both of these valid points do make me feel better.

Perhaps I shall hold on for more :laugh:

(Failed at finding a funny male calf gif - and now feel a bit pervy on the Google search :laugh:)

Oh wait!

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I prefer calf #1.

Another calf option:
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Perrin's calf was well-turned enough for wolves to lick it, what more do you people want?!
 

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Right? Us wolves have pretty high standards, we don't just lick ANYONE'S calves :mother
 

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Edited to add: I also think the line "like a raging sun" is a nod to the books where Siuan first sees Rand. She has a talent for seeing ta'veren, too, and at the end of EotW she sees Rand for a brief moment. She doesn't say anything then, but later tells Moiraine that she was absolutely petrified because of the way he glowed, like Siuan knew he was going to tear the world apart. I might be mistaken, but I think she might actually use the words "like a raging sun" in the books.

Though that's all speculation on my part.
I think Gitara Moroso's Foretelling mentions something like "he lays in the snow and burns like the sun" or something like that.

Good point @Alyria Ess ....good enough for wolves is good enough for me! :laugh:
 
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