potential controversial pot-stirring: Couladin

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I was talking to my partner tonight about how the show really needs to cut down on the Shaido arc but definitely keep Couladin, because oh is he relevant in this particular day and age (cough cough).

Basically, I'm pretty sure Couladin's battle cry is "Make the Aiel Great Again!"

Here's Rand, telling the Aiel a difficult, hard truth about their history, their culture, their entire way of life. This truth makes them fundamentally wrestle with their identities, what they believe about ji'e'toh, their entire purpose and what their existence in the Waste has meant. It's a truth so hard to deal with some of the men who try to become chiefs go insane or kill themselves.

And then Couladin pops up, promising them glory! Promising to conquer the wetlands! Everything he's saying is confirming their biases, making them feel superior, and giving them a purpose that fits neatly into how they already understand themselves and their history. But it's all a lie.

... if they adapt this completely straight, I can already hear a certain group of people decrying "woke nonsense" and "SJW bulls****." My eyes are already rolling and I'm pretty sure that's a season or two away.
 

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I think this is a common theme in a lot of elements throughout history, even in post-WWI Germany. I don't think there will be that loud of a voice on the critic front of it, also, I have yet to meet a Wheel of Time person who was close minded. Wheel of Time is in its essence a very diverse fantasy world and requires a certain level of nuance about understanding life to enjoy.

The Shaido arc and the Elaida arc were the main two I did not enjoy in the series though... so I know what you mean.

Honestly, I am frustrated that no one ever talked about the Green Man in this series, such a huge figure at end of book one... but even the Aes Sedai never discuss it... Moraine being luckiest person on the planet to see the Green Man twice just goes right over their head for some reason... I find that frustrating.
 

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If they did Couladin's arc like that it would be amazing. I would not be surprised if it went over people's heads though. People often don't see that what's happening in fiction is the same as what they're doing irl. This actually made me even more excited for the show, lol, so many possibilities!
 

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If they did Couladin's arc like that it would be amazing. I would not be surprised if it went over people's heads though. People often don't see that what's happening in fiction is the same as what they're doing irl. This actually made me even more excited for the show, lol, so many possibilities!

yes I agree with this, even if they do that arc heavily, I think it may just go over peoples heads you are right! fantasy context, lot of magic and lot of elements at play... it changes perception.
 

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Ooo, interesting parallel!
 

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First of all...

:rofl

No, wait, that's it. :look: That is too good.
 
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I'm not quite to that part on my re-read, but that parallel makes a TON of sense.

Also, interesting about what that makes the Shaido...
 

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I'm not quite to that part on my re-read, but that parallel makes a TON of sense.

Also, interesting about what that makes the Shaido...

The Shaido imo represent fear winning over acceptance/knowledge. It seems to be a common human element, so in that regards, I don't dislike the Shaido, but on the same hand I understand they are weaker than the other clans due to their inability to use logic and instead focusing on their baser instincts.
 
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The Shaido imo represent fear winning over acceptance/knowledge. It seems to be a common human element, so in that regards, I don't dislike the Shaido, but on the same hand I understand they are weaker than the other clans due to their inability to use logic and instead focusing on their baser instincts.

+1

I agree. Particularly when juxtaposed against other clans, especially the Taardad.
 

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I have nothing to add to this except from now on when I read about Couladin I'm going to imagine his hair being a funky fly-away mess! :rofl
 

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*snorts* thank you for this. I did a re-read that in part coincided with the last US presidential election, and thought much the same thing.
 
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