First Trailer discussion: Who was the crying man and why was he crying?

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I don't think they've cast LTT (at least, I didn't see him on the IMDB page for the show).
 

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This video has a leak for his casting. WoT Up! says the info is from reliable sources who have provided accurate info in the past, but it's not officially confirmed.

We're getting LTT in this show?!?!?! All I have to say is: oh dang oh dang oh dang OH DANG!!!!!!! The excitement, IT IS TOO MUCH
 

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I am so hyped for the Prologue scene, if they ever do it.
 

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I am so hyped for the Prologue scene, if they ever do it.

YES!

It's such a great setup to the series because the first time I read it, I was like "what the heck does this have to do with these sheep folk?" and then things start falling into place the more you read along.

I really just want to see Ishy though :embarassed:mg
 

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YES!

It's such a great setup to the series because the first time I read it, I was like "what the heck does this have to do with these sheep folk?" and then things start falling into place the more you read along.

I really just want to see Ishy though :embarassed:mg
At first, I was like "what is this gibberish?" But then I noticed it was a really good setup, as you said.
 

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I've often used the opening of TEotW as an example of a prologue done right. Instead of being the terrible boring encyclopedia-style infodump you saw in other epic fantasy of the time (David Eddings, I am looking at you), it's an actual scene with characters, tension, and so forth.

(Later prologues . . . weren't actually prologues. They were Chapter Ones that shotgunned a bunch of different characters at you, largely as a promotional tool to build up hype before the book came out.)
 

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I saw that theory and thought how odd it would be to have a wolf brother in the midst of everything yet no one freaking out, especially if they’re playing up how dangerous it is for men to touch the one power. (of course hearing wolves isn’t a thing of the power but I’d expect it to be misunderstood and make people nervous. or, shadowspawn, aggh.)

I realize that in New Spring Elyas was still just another warder but if Perrin needs a guide at some point (and I think he should have one) then seems strange to me to have Stepin play that role. even if they do need to compress the story.
 

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It seems readily apparent to me that Perrin inherits Stepin's axe, tbh. :p



My current theory is that they're essentially replacing the Whitecloak storyline in the first book with Dragonsworn instead.

Basically, I think we'll have a couple of different initial groups that we follow:

- Red Aes Sedai escorting a captured Logain
- Alanna, Kerene, one other Green (see the arrow scene- she's there) + their Warders. They may or may not be with the Reds escorting Logain.
- Moiraine, Lan, the boys, Egwene
- Nynaeve

Nynaeve goes after M & co, but meets Alanna & Kerene instead, and because she can channel isn't exactly given a choice about whether she stays with them. Scratch that, Nynaeve catches Lan alone in the woods and holds him at knife point, which is MUCH better (also...hot). Pretty sure this happens AFTER Shadar Logoth sequence I've detailed below. There's a scene where Nynaeve is protecting Egwene with a knife, but based on the stuff around them, the warm fire, and the dirt on Egwene's face, I think that's in Two Rivers/Emond's Field.

We skip Baerlon entirely. M & co get driven to Shadar Logoth by Shadowspawn.

If Alanna & Reds are not together initially, I think we'll see them coming together, then disagreement on how to proceed in order to characterize the different groups of Aes Sedai.

M&co are split, resulting in:

- Rand and Mat running off together.
- Perrin and Egwene jumping off the wall into the river
- Moiraine getting injured and Lan taking off with her to find help (see photo of Lan carrying her outside of Shadar Logoth. They are alone. This + Kerene Healing Moiraine's horrible shoulder wound are almost certainly connected, and the fact they are alone is partly why I think Nynaeve finds them after Shadar Logoth.)

Perrin and Egwene wander around in the forest, because that's apparently Perrin's defining action as a character ( :look: ). They run across some wolves eventually.

M&L find the other Aes Sedai.

Dragonsworn attack in a moment of weakness (this is why I think the Red and Green groups meet, rather than traveling together the whole time) intending to rescue Logain. I think they succeed; I truly believe they're going to skip the gentling + healing of Logain arc entirely, and probably roll him into the Taim character. Which I am salty about for reasons I can't articulate, but ey, what can ya do.

Kerene is killed in the battle. The Reds take off to chase Logain. I am unsure what the Greens do at this point, but they clearly don't go with Moiraine, so perhaps they head back to Tar Valon to report that the false Dragon has escaped and a sister (or sisters) are dead.

Whatever the living Greens do...Stepin takes off in the aftermath. He meets Perrin & Egwene in the wilderness. Maybe the wolves have them surrounded. Maybe they meet up amicably and Stepin protects them against some other foe. However it goes down, Stepin ends up dying (or deciding he doesn't want to fight at all anymore) and gives Perrin his axe.

Meanwhile Mat and Rand are busy having a hot girl tour of all the places you shouldn't go when one of you is learning to channel and the other has a cursed dagger. This includes pissing off some armored patrol types, crossing some darmeeting Loial, since that's actually canon.

The whole group ends up meeting again in "Baerlon" (Which is really more like a combination of Baerlon and Caemlyn) afterward, where Rand meets Min. (Alternatively, he meets Min while on his hot girl tour, but I think it makes more sense here). Then they head out to the Waygate.

ETA: I wrote this up without re-watching the trailer so it may need some adjustment for actual facts :look: Like, if Perrin is present for the Dragonsworn attack, then clearly he reunites with the group sooner
 
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We skip Baerlon entirely. M & co get driven to Shadar Logoth by Shadowspawn.
We do see Mat and Rand running away from a Myrddraal in Baerlon (assumedly), though.
 

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We do see Mat and Rand running away from a Myrddraal in Baerlon (assumedly), though.

We see them running away from...something, somewhere. It's not Two Rivers/Emond's Field because neither the architecture nor the armor worn by people around them matches Two Rivers stuff (their clothes are wrong, too). It could be the Baerlon/Caemlyn fill in, OR...it could be when the Darkfriends attack Fal Dara! We DO have some of books 2 and 3 in this season, so the season could very well end with that to get us hyped for season 2.

(And we "know" they made it that far (or at least some TV show equivalent of Fal Dara) because of the bath scene with Rand and Egwene.)

ETA: That said, the person behind them isn't a Myrddraal, unless Myrddraal wear light clothes/armor.

I like the idea of Fal Dara, but...there's no reason that scene couldn't happen in the Baerlon/Caemlyn amalgamation I mentioned in my original post, tbh.
 
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some of that is quite plausible to me. we do have whitecloaks cast, costumes, etc though so they’ll still be around somewhere. could still come across Perrin in the woods easily enough though.
 

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Perhaps mat and rand run into them?

I don't think they're being removed, simply that the white cloak camp incident does not occur
 

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The trailer was only a teaser, so I think we might still see much more that we haven't.
 
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