Megana Vallentin
Aes Sedai
I loved book 3 a lot more than book 2! I would say book 3 actually improved my opinion on book 2 and I think I'll enjoy book 2 a lot more on re-reads than I did at the release.
Empyrean (Fourth Wing)
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Book Three was a cliffhanger for real! So many theories about what it will bring!
The cliffhanger for book 3 was so much, especially considering there won't be a book 4 for 2 years.
What color dragons do you guys think you would ride? By personality I should probably have a green, since I'm a bookish thinker who did well in school.
But I get tired of always picking the "brains" group in every fandom, the Ravenclaw, the Erudite, the Brown Ajah, etc. Sometimes I ask myself if there is a group that is similar to my interests but not a perfect match, so that I am forced to learn and grow. For example, "smart" people who think and plan and are very goal driven might do well in Slytherin, because ambition, and Slytherin would probably force me to work on my people skills.
Other times I look for a group that is unique, that isn't normally represented in the classifications of other fandoms. I am drawn to the orange dragons, because not many fantasy stories use orange as a dragon color, and this author is determined to make them all bad guys. But an orange and I would have to be opposites attract, and we would have a hell of a time working it out, lol.
It's been a minute since I re-read these books, so the details are a little fuzzy, but one of the few things that really impressed me were the cliffhangers. I despise cliffhangers that cut off in the middle of an action sequence, but I love cliffhangers that suddenly drop new information at the end and leave you with a few years to think about the implications.
I have mixed feelings about the Empyrean as a whole, because I love the base idea and world building with Basgiath, but I wish it had been fleshed out more in a epic fantasy setting rather that used sparingly to prop up a modern romantasy plot.
One thing that tickled me was the pattern in who gets what dragon color.
1. Black - The Most Important people. The protagonist and the top general.
2. Blue - The next Most Important people a half-step down. The love interest and the prince.
3. Green - The special people (who are not Most Important). The protagonist's sister and best friend.
4. Red - Those who are above average in skill but not special.
5. Brown - Average people, or those whose protagonist and antagonist tendencies balance out. The jokers who goof off.
6. Orange - The antagonists, whether series antagonists or temporarily seen as competitors for the love interest.
What does this say about Brennan, who rides an Orange?
In Onyx Storm I really appreciated the chapters from other POVs, where she attempted to showcase the different relationships that other riders had with their dragons. I think she made them way too stereotypical and over-done, but I appreciated the effort, and hopefully her writing skills grow from it.
Sorry this is so long.
But I get tired of always picking the "brains" group in every fandom, the Ravenclaw, the Erudite, the Brown Ajah, etc. Sometimes I ask myself if there is a group that is similar to my interests but not a perfect match, so that I am forced to learn and grow. For example, "smart" people who think and plan and are very goal driven might do well in Slytherin, because ambition, and Slytherin would probably force me to work on my people skills.
Other times I look for a group that is unique, that isn't normally represented in the classifications of other fandoms. I am drawn to the orange dragons, because not many fantasy stories use orange as a dragon color, and this author is determined to make them all bad guys. But an orange and I would have to be opposites attract, and we would have a hell of a time working it out, lol.
It's been a minute since I re-read these books, so the details are a little fuzzy, but one of the few things that really impressed me were the cliffhangers. I despise cliffhangers that cut off in the middle of an action sequence, but I love cliffhangers that suddenly drop new information at the end and leave you with a few years to think about the implications.
I have mixed feelings about the Empyrean as a whole, because I love the base idea and world building with Basgiath, but I wish it had been fleshed out more in a epic fantasy setting rather that used sparingly to prop up a modern romantasy plot.
One thing that tickled me was the pattern in who gets what dragon color.
1. Black - The Most Important people. The protagonist and the top general.
2. Blue - The next Most Important people a half-step down. The love interest and the prince.
3. Green - The special people (who are not Most Important). The protagonist's sister and best friend.
4. Red - Those who are above average in skill but not special.
5. Brown - Average people, or those whose protagonist and antagonist tendencies balance out. The jokers who goof off.
6. Orange - The antagonists, whether series antagonists or temporarily seen as competitors for the love interest.
What does this say about Brennan, who rides an Orange?
In Onyx Storm I really appreciated the chapters from other POVs, where she attempted to showcase the different relationships that other riders had with their dragons. I think she made them way too stereotypical and over-done, but I appreciated the effort, and hopefully her writing skills grow from it.
Sorry this is so long.
Great thoughts, I loved the series for the world building, the political intrigue, and some of the characters.
In some respect the Irids dragons in the Empyrean series are similar to the Tinkers in WOT. Both withdraw from dominant society because they believe the world is corrupted. It's a trope of the "withdrawn", those who refuse to play the game because there is no clear winner. When the world gets too loud, too broken, or too compromised, they walk away, refusing to participate in a corrupt system.
So, the riders of orange dragons, trying not to give spoilers, were wild cards, unpredictable, exactly who a "withdrawn" would bond with. Imogen rides orange, and looking to see how the rest of that story arc goes since
Also with Violets second dragon, Ardanna, who is a gold dragon and gold dragons are disrupters of the "pattern", that's a setup to be a transformation I believe.
In some respect the Irids dragons in the Empyrean series are similar to the Tinkers in WOT. Both withdraw from dominant society because they believe the world is corrupted. It's a trope of the "withdrawn", those who refuse to play the game because there is no clear winner. When the world gets too loud, too broken, or too compromised, they walk away, refusing to participate in a corrupt system.
So, the riders of orange dragons, trying not to give spoilers, were wild cards, unpredictable, exactly who a "withdrawn" would bond with. Imogen rides orange, and looking to see how the rest of that story arc goes since
she is the one holding Violets secrets.
Also with Violets second dragon, Ardanna, who is a gold dragon and gold dragons are disrupters of the "pattern", that's a setup to be a transformation I believe.
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I love that comparison. I resepct the Irids a little more now that you have pointed that out. I originally thought they were a little cheesey.
Yes! The dialogue was a bit cheesy, I tried to correlate it to a snotty college professor talking down to its audience, but it was annoying. lol.