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Re: Hawat, Yueh and Jessica

It really bothered me too, that Yueh's training is just accepted as SO perfect and unbreakable. In that regard, I can understand Hawat's logic in blaming Jessica. But wow who the heck convinced the galaxy that the conditioning is THAT GOOD AND PERFECT? That's a feat in itself and I can't believe they all fell for it.
 

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I have always been bothered by that. I wonder if they ever expand upon that in later books. The Suek conditioning.
 

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Oh right there was a thread for this. I, uhh, fell behind for a few weeks and then just finished the rest of the book in a few days. Good stuff.
 

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Same here… general mental exhaustion with life drained my interest in reading for several days. But with the movie out now, I’m eager to finish the book and go see it before it leaves.

I have no idea where we are “on schedule “ now, but I’ve been plugging my way through. Somewhere near the half way point and getting pretty interested in the story.

Avoiding potential spoilers with specifics, but I was quite sad at some of the deaths that have occured. A couple characters I was looking forward to seeing more development from are no longer around.
 

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I also lost steam for a while but after seeing the movie this weekend I'm very excited to dive back in. Though, I did start reading again last night and found that my mental images have been HEAVILY influenced by seeing the movie a few days ago. :p

Also, minor spoiler for the way the movie characterized someone:
I'm having a hard time getting back into the book and thinking of Jessica the same way I used to - the movie presented her as more emotional than I think was appropriate, and that is impacting my mental image of her. I just finished the scene where Paul and Jessica escape into the desert and survive the crash and the sand slide, and she isn't at all emotional in those scenes in the book but I keep thinking of the way she behaved at various points in the movie and it's messing with my head. :laugh:
 

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That's part of why I'm trying to hold off on seeing the movie until I finish the book. Once I see the movie, I'm pretty sure my perception whenever I re-read in the future will be forever altered!
 

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Well, I just finished the book. Still need to read the Appendices though.

Overall I enjoyed the book. I don’t find myself enthralled with it, and definitely not immediately running out to pickup the others in the series. Maybe with some time and after watching the movie that’ll change. We’ll see.

Some specific spoilerie things and thoughts

I am really not sure exactly how I feel about Paul. I really don’t find him all that compelling or likeable of a character. He bounced between youthful impulsiviness to haughty intitled “chosen one” so much that I couldn’t quite relate to him.

And I didn’t fully understand what it was about him that made him so important to the Fremen. He fulfilled their prophecy things, but what did they say? I think to the prophecies from WoT about The Dragon. We hear about them all the time, so they had substance. I kinda missed that in Dune. It was like the readrr just had to take it for granted that these were important things and Paul did it.

The one thing that I did find kinda intriguing was the pivot and change in direction about the whole Jihad thing he saw in the future.

For so much of the book he saw it as a bad thing, and something he was looking to avoid. I found myself hoping he’d find some path and choice eventually to avoid it.

The rapid turnabout in the final scene about humanity becoming complacent and NEEDING the Jihad came really fast. I thought it was an interesting alternative view. I wish it had been explored more in depth.

And last for now as I ramble on… Even before ever reading the book, I had a concept of the Sandworm as a terrifying monster. I wish there had been more about them in this view during the book before all the details about the Fremen basically treating them like pets and cattle. We got something like 2 or 3 scenes during the book with them as an unstoppable monster. Not enough…

After typing the above, I realize that it was mostly a bunch of negatives and complaints. So here are some of my favorite parts

I really liked the characters of Alia and Stilgar. Both a bit unique and strong in their own ways.

The large time gap left out of the story before Book Three was great. Too many novels run on a very short timeline. This seemed more realistic with how long it would take for things to happen.

The visual of Sandworms being ridden into the battle at the end through a hole in the wall caused by an Atomic Bomb. I had some pretty cool mental images of that. I hope the movie does it justice.

I was glad the final fight scene wasn’t a complete breeze for Paul. It was nice to see at least someone challenge him. Though it seems to imply Feyd was an amazing fighter above the level of Fremen or Sandukar. Which his sheltered upbringing dodnt quite justify.

There are many other aspects of the story and side characters I found quite enjoyable and likeable.
 

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I haven't finished the book yet but I agree with just about everything you said!

Paul has always been one of my least favorite characters in the entire series LOL.

The time gap before Book Three always bothers me...I wanted to know more about Paul and Jessica building their new life with the Fremen. We can fill in a lot of the gaps based on the info we get, but I would have liked to actually experience it.
 

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Megana I completely agree with you - I wanted MORE of that part and I didn't like that it was skipped over.

I totally got derailed from reading this and really need to make time to read Book Three (which is where I stopped).
 
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