Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Book12

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Moogle Stiltzkin

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Yeah i know odd question.

But when reading book 13; it felt to me as if the story felt more and more like how Robert Jordan would have done it; the wordings, phrases etc.

Book 12 gathering of storms; in some places it didn't feel like Jordan at all. But still was a good read.

So am i just crazy or did this make any sense ? Did anyone else think the same :/ ?


Eitherway i love both books :} Gosh can't wait for the last one.
 
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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

I think it did. Although I believe BS said they have about the same amount of Jordan in them. BS did a great job on TGS but ToM he did even better.
 
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I'm going to go with less Jordanesque. Sanderson loves variants of "he played me" and tends to over use them, at least in his recent books. Seeing it come from Graendal during her initial PoV just killed the tone. With such an early reminder that the book was only partially written by Jordan it became difficult to feel Jordan in any of it.
 
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I think it might have sounded a little more like him, but I think part of that might be due to the fact that Sanderson started on tGS, and I knew that, so I was a little more critical of the writing, and was trying to see if it sounded like RJ or not when I read it. This time I knew what to expect I guess I should say, and read it more like the older books, without nitpicking about the writing so much.
 
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I agree, except with Mat's personality. Much more humor than we have seen from Mat in, oh, probably 10-12 books. I was laughing out loud at some of his comments and smart*ss comments in this book. Cant remember last time that has happened.

Overall though, yea, I definitely thought it felt more like Jordan than the last book.
 
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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

Jerm, you didn't think he was funnier in TGS?

I loved both books. I think ToM sounded SLIGHTLY more like Jordan than TGS, but both seemed quite faithful to me. *Shrugs* I'm not that critical on my entertainment usually though...
 
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Kiante, I did think he was a little funnier, but not as funny as ToM. Especially loved the "It about bloody boots" :laugh:
I am not very critical of my entertainment either. I loved the last two books, but they do have a slightly different feel to them.
 
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It definitely felt more Jordan to me. I think Sanderson was just building his way into the characters. Mat, for example, seemed much less forced. Although ,honestly, most characters seemed to lack a lot of their depth that they had when Jordan did it. Almost like just going through the motions.
 
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Parts of the book def. lacked RJ's depth and descriptiveness. But the overall pace of the book felt like RJ's work. The way things started out building, twisting together, people meeting up, etc.

The part with Matt about the boot was great but it didnt feel very RJ like if ya know what I mean.but I am new here so feel free to tell me to hush up. :D
 
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Xxtayce said:
It definitely felt more Jordan to me. I think Sanderson was just building his way into the characters. Mat, for example, seemed much less forced. Although ,honestly, most characters seemed to lack a lot of their depth that they had when Jordan did it. Almost like just going through the motions.

Funny. Mat's scenes in Towers of Midnight were among those I found to be the most forced. I thought Sanderson went overboard trying to make Mat into what he thought people wanted.
 
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Maybe I got used to the poor interpretation of Mat then. That'd be really unfortunate. He's really my favorite.
 
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It absolutely felt more RJ than TGS. Mat sounded more like himself, less forced, and Rand was amazing, like we've never seen Rand; I could definitely see RJ's hand in that. I think BS was just getting a feel for the characters in TGS; the reason some of it lacked the depth that other books had is becasue BS has no choice but to wrap up the series in the next book, and there were just too many threads to tie up.
 
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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

I'm going to say they were pretty equal. I liked ToM better, but not because there was more or less Jordan in it.
 

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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

Kallaes Doon said:
Sanderson loves variants of "he played me" and tends to over use them, at least in his recent books.

I'm glad I'm not the only one this phrase bothered. It just seemed so out of place.
 
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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

First of all, Im not bashing Sanderson, I know that hes doing his best and that he can never replace Robert Jordan, since no one really can. But his style does bother me at points in both the 12th and 13th book.

The 12th had whole passages in it you could tell were pure Jordan. It made me feel a lot better reading them because it was probably how Jordan intended it if he could have finished them himself. But in book 12 Sandersons sentence structure annoyed me at times. He liked the short sentences which I supposed were to put more emphasis on certain things in the paragraph but it clashed with what I was used to from Jordan, and it disrupted the flow a bit. Though, as the book went on Sanderson improved (or maybe I just got used to it) and the ending was great, all the tension with Rand that had been building came to a head and ended with a refreshing feeling as if he had been reborn.

Book 13's EVENTS were SO Jordan, the events and how things were starting to tie together were what I had come to expect from the genius that is Jordan. So I would say the essence of what happened in book 13 was more Jordan than book 12, and the wording flowed more than book 12 also. However, some of the revelations made in book 13 almost seemed anticlimatic to me, some things that were supposed to be an epic and surprising development were stated at the end of a chapter almost like "Oh and btw, this happened" which disappointed me a little bit. Between the lines I saw what was probably supposed to be a buildup and then a shocking revelation that the reader felt as much as the characters, but I wasnt feeling that with some of these. Granted the book would have been a lot longer had they extended these scenes but they would have been better for it in my opinion.

All in all though hes not doing a horrible job. I just really wish I could be allowed to see Jordans original notes ;D
 
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Ren Dashain said:
Book 13's EVENTS were SO Jordan, the events and how things were starting to tie together were what I had come to expect from the genius that is Jordan. So I would say the essence of what happened in book 13 was more Jordan than book 12, and the wording flowed more than book 12 also. However, some of the revelations made in book 13 almost seemed anticlimatic to me, some things that were supposed to be an epic and surprising development were stated at the end of a chapter almost like "Oh and btw, this happened" which disappointed me a little bit. Between the lines I saw what was probably supposed to be a buildup and then a shocking revelation that the reader felt as much as the characters, but I wasnt feeling that with some of these. Granted the book would have been a lot longer had they extended these scenes but they would have been better for it in my opinion.

I agree that much of it was anticlimactic and could have been fleshed out much fuller. Extending the scenes would not necessarily have made the book a lot longer though. There are a lot of filler scenes that could easily have been eliminated. If the filler was trimmed down, those anticlimaxes could have been extended and fleshed out and the book likely may have been shorter than it is.
 

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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

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Funny. Mat's scenes in Towers of Midnight were among those I found to be the most forced. I thought Sanderson went overboard trying to make Mat into what he thought people wanted.

^this. *nods* If aMoL has Mat referencing being a married man even half as much, I'm going to scream. I felt that we did see more of Brandon's sense of humor through Mat, which was good; it's just a different worldview, of course. The bit about the nails sticking out as if they, too, were trying to escape whatever seedy tavern Mat was visiting literally made me laugh out loud. Not that it was so RJ'esque; it was very Brandon worldview AND it was funny.
 

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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

No one will ever be completly happy as it wasn't RJ writing the books but I think Brandon did an amazing job, I don't think anyone else could have done better and I like that it feels different. I like Brandon's writing style and I think Mat was much more believable in ToM. I think MoL will be awesome.
 
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I thought like this one def. sounded more like jordan, but it could just be that i got used to the dual style in the last book.
I did think some parts were forced though, like the part with Matt's eye... that felt like it was put in because we wanted to it be. I had thought that was going to happen, but it could have been done better.
But overall i really liked this book.
 
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Don't you think that a little bit of the "fan nature" of BS shows in some sentenses? Some things sounded as if, after following the series for years, he just wanted so much someone to do or say something that he included it, although it does not fit in well. At the moment I can think of only one example wich is the dialogue between Birgitte and Elayne before leaving for Cairhien - it was awesome but Birgitte's sharp-tongued remarks sounded written by BS the WoT fan, not BS the autor trying to finish the series in the way RJ would have done it.
 
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