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  1. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    I don't have any other notes yet, but Moiraine is so annoying in these chapters - it does play with one of the big themes of the series, which is people acting on insufficient knowledge, or believing they know things they don't, in this case, she knows nothing of Malkieri culture so is perplexed...
  2. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Chapter 19 This was kind of a fun chapter, but Moiraine was incredibly annoying. I know she doesn't get better for a while :/ Character Development Moiraine *Moiraine for some reason thinks Lan should apologise for defending himself *Her whole response is very petulant and childish *She does not...
  3. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Chapter 16 An uneventful chapter, but we learn a bit more about Malkieri culture Miscellaneous *Malkieri men do not start conversations with women who don’t speak to them first *Women had called Lan beautiful when he was 15 *Did Edeyn really hire men to kill Lan? Chapter 17 I didn't like this...
  4. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Chapter 15 Pretty uneventful. Basically Lan rides a horse and Bukama glares at people Character Development Lan *Lan does not trust Aes Sedai and cannot understand why someone would agree to be a Warder Hopefully we'll be able to detect his attitude change - in the same way that his relationship...
  5. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Chapter 15 Very little happens. We see that Malkieri are known for being extremely prideful and temperamental,but we could probably have lost the whole chapter without missing out on much Character Development Lan Lan does not trust Aes Sedai and cannot understand why someone would agree to be a...
  6. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    They are mostly older Aes Sedai,who she has known many years Aisha and Meilyn were both born in 698, Valera in 748, Kerene in 793 and Cadsuane (assuming she was one) in 705
  7. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Thinking of bringing Sheriam in is worth including in the chapter notes- I think they generally don't believe in the Black Ajah at all, not that they think it might be real, but trust her as a friend. Probably the same as Tamra - She calls in half a dozen (maybe more) people to search, it seems...
  8. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Chapter 13 Very little happens. Robert Jordan’s obsession with dresses to the fore Miscellaneous *Tarabon prorduces fine porcelain *Aes Sedai receive a stipend of 1000 crowns per year. They can get more if needed, but this is more than many people would earn in their lives Chapter 14 Character...
  9. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    The thing where Siuan could t say it was odd. We see plenty of examples of Aes Sedai saying things that are not literally true. Hyperbole and exaggeration seem fine - I think there something like “you’ll curse the first kiss your mother stole from your father”, though I’d have to see if I could...
  10. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    I think they are probably discouraged from thinking about strength so that they don't notice the heirarchy and to a lesser extent so that they won't be thinking of their eventual standing while being taught
  11. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    For simplicity, I decided to track the character appearance separately Chapter 11 Overall, interesting, but it doesn’t really advance the plot Miscellaneous *In addition to the seven who come to collect them, there are the three sitters from each Ajah and two others *They Pass through the...
  12. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    How much do we later see of Siuan manipulating people and playing Daes Daemar? I know with Byrne and the Andor/Murandy border, she went with brute force - no subtlety, but do we see anything to suggest this is a skill she eventually learned? I suppose she does manipulate the Salidar Aes Sedai...
  13. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    There is no template. I’m doing things based on the notes we have for The eye of the world, but really, any observation or comment is great - if you have comments on anyone else’s thoughts, add them, or if you have your own, that’s also good
  14. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    I've started incorporating various observations into the notes sections https://library.tarvalon.net/index.php?title=New_Spring:_Chapter_1
  15. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    An observation on chapter 4 - Atuan is one of the names called out when the accepted are trying to get ready. There is only one Atuan in the Companion, Atuan Larriset, who was an Accepted over 150 years before
  16. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    The lack of people remembering that Siuan and Moiraine were close friends does seem bizarre. I suppose as Moiraine was out of the Tower for nearly all the 20 years, people might think they just drifted apart, but it doesn't seem realistic
  17. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Chapter 7 Characters First Mention Aeldra Najaf, , Aisha Ravenos, Elyas, Jala Bandevin, Karile, Kerene Nagashi, Ludice Daneen, Rina Hafden, Stepin, Valera Gorovni, Waylin First Appearance Aeldra Najaf, Elyas, Jala Bandevin, Karile, Kerene Nagashi, Rina Hafden, Stepin, Waylin Character...
  18. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Do we see Siuan have much of a sense of humor later? We knew she liked pranks, but it does seem as an Accepted she was pretty easy going. She also seems to learn the art of manipulating people. I’m not entirely clear yet what kind of puzzles Siuan solves vs Moiraine does, but I think she sees...
  19. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Yes, it just seemed odd, a very familiar way of talking, but it might just be how they talk throughout the series
  20. Toral Delvar

    Wheel of Time Reread - New Spring

    Chapter 6 Characters First Mention Serafelle, Ryma, Jennet, Willa Mendair, Billi Mandair, Ellid, Jarna, Taringail, Anvaere, Innloine, Tsutama Rath First Appearance Setsuko, Sheriam, Lisandre, Laras, Martan, Jarna Character development Suian Suian neets Merean’s gaze after a sarcastic comment...
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